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Idris notes: Fin

I’m trying to get fluent with Idris. It’s hard – but really interesting – but really hard. As often happens with these things, you gain a little ground in understanding only to find that just beyond the perimeter of your knowledge is a steep cliff face. Every so often you look down, and realise the ground isn’t there…

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No, not that Idris.

My first stumbling block has been that the signature and constructors for Fin are pretty weird.

The concept is not all that hard. Fin n is an abstract finite set of cardinality n. It’s not a container type, like Set a. The set “is” the type; values of the type are elements of the set, which as far as we’re concerned aren’t anything in particular – think of the “dots inside a circle” notation used by Lawvere to denote abstract sets. We’re not interested in what’s “in” a finite set, we’re just interested in its being of a bounded size.

A value of type Fin n is one of n elements – but which? This is where the constructors come into play, by introducing an ordering on these elements like that of Nat, the type of the natural numbers. There’s a Peano-like encoding on the naturals: Z = 0, S Z = 1, S (S Z) = 2 and so on. Similarly, here, fZ is the “zeroth” element of a finite set of size k+1 (it has to be k+1 so that we don’t try to construct an element of an empty set). fS Fin k is then the “successor” element of an element of Fin k, and has the type Fin (S k).

This is a bit odd. Suppose we have fZ {k=4} – the zeroth element of a finite set of five (4 + 1) elements, which has the type Fin 5. fS (fZ {k=4}) is then the successor-to-zeroth element of a finite set of six elements, having the type Fin 6 – in order to obtain the “next” element, we’ve also had to grow the type. On the one hand, this means that we can never obtain a “next” element outside the bounds of a finite set; but on the other, it means that a successor is always “added” to a finite set, rather than simply located within it.

Suppose we wanted, given a bound n : Nat, to generate a vector of size n containing all the values of Fin n. What would that look like?